Welcome to FrOg On-Line #2000-01, Thursday, January 13, 2000.
CONTENTS
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1. Introduction
2. Picking Table
3. The Glowing Future
4. Trotter Dump Collecting and Field Trip Insurance
5. "Subscriber" List
1. Introduction
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I'm BAAAAAaaaaak! My pc insisted it was Dec. 31, 1970 for the first two days
of this year, then it crashed. After wrestling with it a few hours, I got it
working again, but it believes it's 1988.
In the last FrOg On-Line, I did not refer to the fluorescent mineral list
printed in the Franklin Show program by its correct title: "Fluorescent
Minerals of Franklin and Sterling Hill, N.J.", and I failed to credit it to the
person responsible for the list: Dick Bostwick. My apologies.
One of the primary purposes of FrOg On-Line is to be a discussion forum about
FrOg minerals, geology, specimens, and mines. So e-mail me your questions,
comments, and observations.
This is the only FrOg On-Line I plan to send out before the Tucson Show. Those
of you who are going to the show: Have a good trip, and good luck. I will not
be there this year.
Welcome to 2000 (or 1988). Enjoy.
2. Picking Table
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I received my 1999 Picking Table on Wednesday, January 05. All FOMS members
should have received theirs by now.
Pete Chin provides the following report on the next Picking Table:
From: "Chin, Peter" <Peter.Chin@USPTO.GOV>
Subject: RE: PT.
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:23:56 -0500
HAPPY NEW YEAR/Y2K !!!!!
There are currently a number of articles in the development stage. I am hoping
that at least two of these will be ready for the Spring PT. The format for the
front cover has been completely changed to inagurate the new millinium. I will
have more to say later.
3. The Glowing Future
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The information in this section comes from the September 1999 Franklin Mineral
Museum Newsletter, the Fall/Winter 1999 Sterling Hill Newsletter, the flyer for
the NJESA Show, and Doug Mitchell's FMS Online, and December e-mail from Dick
Bostwick.
Saturday, April 15, 2000:
Mine Run Dump night collecting, 6:30 P.M. to 9 P.M., Sterling Hill Mining
Museum foundation members only.
Saturday, April 29, 2000:
"Pond" (outdoor swap and sell).
NJESA Show, 9 A.M. to 5:30 P.M., Robert E. Littell Community Center and
Hardyston Township School.
Trotter Dump collecting, 9 A.M. to 7 P.M., fee is $20 + $1/pound. The $20
fee covers night collecting also.
Trotter Dump night collecting, 7:30 P.M. to 11 P.M., fee is $20 + $2/pound.
Sunday, April 30, 2000:
"Pond" (outdoor swap and sell).
NJESA Show, 10 A.M. to 5 P.M., Robert E. Littell Community Center and
Hardyston Township School.
Saturday, May 06:
Appreciation Day and Millennium Celebration.
Saturday, May 20, 2000:
Passaic and Noble Pit collecting, 9 A.M. to 3 P.M., Sterling Hill Mining
Museum foundation members only.
Tuesday, June 06: Annual Spring Night Dig and Mineral Sale.
Sterling Hill Mining Museum
closed thru February 29 except by special appointment.
March: open weekends 10 A.M. to 5 P.M., tour at 1 P.M., weather permitting.
open weekdays for group tours by appointment.
April: open seven days a week 10 A.M. to 5 P.M.
weekday tours at 1 P.M.
weekend tours at 11 A.M., 1 P.M., and 3 P.M.
Franklin Mineral Museum
closed thru March 03.
March: open weekends 11 A.M. to 3 P.M., collecting available weather
permitting.
weekdays by appointment.
April thru November: open daily 11 A.M. to 3 P.M.
Sunday, April 23, 2000 (Easter): closed.
Thursday, November 23, 2000 (Thanksgiving): closed.
4. Trotter Dump Collecting and Field Trip Insurance
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I received the following e-mail queation from dave Slaymaker, and sent a copy
of the message to Dick Bostwick:
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 08:31:40 -0800 (PST)
From: David Slaymaker <dh10000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Trotter Dump
Hi Bill,
I got the FROG and was wondering if you could answer a question for me.
To dig at the Trotter dump it says we have to have proof of personal
liability coverage... and that some of the mineralogical organizations have
that ... or something like that. Is my being a member of FOMS good enough?
Can I go on the Trotter dig?
Best wishes, and may your computer survive the y2k!
Dave
Dick provided the following reply:
From: RBostwick@spexcsp.com
Subject: Re: question.
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:22:15 GMT
The last word about the Trotter trip lies with its sponsor, the Delaware
Valley Earth Science Society (DVESS). The last word about the liability
insurance carried by FOMS lies with its officers. Just the same, I'll tell
you what I know.
I don't happen to have the DVESS literature with me, but I believe you can
find out all you need to know about next year's Trotter Dump field trip on
their website:
www.dvess.org
Specifically, www.dvess.org/pages/trotter.html
There's another related site: www.terryfic.com/dvess/trotter.html
I would check those before putting anything in FrOg about the trip itself.
However, to answer your correspondent's question as best I can, both the
owners of the dump and the organizers of the trip want all participants to
have liability insurance, the purpose of which is to protect those owners and
organizers. The Eastern Federation of Mineralogical and Lapidary Societies
(EFMLS) makes such liability insurance available to all its member clubs.
Coverage must be purchased in addition to EFMLS membership, but most EFMLS
clubs buy it, and some clubs joint the EFMLs just so they can buy the
insurance. Most quarry and property owners, at least in the northeast,
require a club have such insurance before they will allow field trips on
their property.
FOMS is an EFMLS member club, and it buys EFMLS insurance for its members.
So the answer is yes, the Trotter Dump field trip liability insurance
requirement for participants is satisfied by FOMS membership. A paid-up FOMS
membership card for the year 2000 should be carried along on the Trotter
trip, as evidence of coverage.
The EFMLS insurance policy with which I was familiar when I was an FOMS
officer was simply a blanket policy for the club's officers and the property
owner, in case they are sued for an injury sustained during a field trip.
The policy did not provide liability insurance of any kind for an individual
club member on club functions and field trips. The EFMLS has been fiddling
around with some kind of expanded insurance but I don't know the details.
If you really need to know the exact nature of the EFMLS/FOMS insurance, you
should ask John Cianciulli or Steve Kuitems.
Dick Bostwick
Steve Kuitems adds the following:
From: "Steven M. Kuitems" <skuitems@eclipse.net>
Subject: reply to ins. query
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:28:21 -0500
Dear Bill,
I believe that Dick B. was correct in his analysis of the field trip ins.
question. To participate in club type activities of this sort we require that
the participants be an EFMLS affiliated club member. That is assuming this is
an official club sponsored event (eg. DVES club or whatever). This is not a
personal liabilty ins. but a third party type of coverage to protect the club
and owners but this type of coverage does not provide coverage of an
individual if they injure themselves.
Some people have been confused on this issue thinking that the federation
policy is like a type of medical insurance...I do not believe there is any
coverage like that implied in the EFMLS policy. Personaly I would just advise
people to have proof of their participating, currently valid, club and
federation membership cards as we have done for the FOMS. That being said I
believe Don Halterman et al. should be consulted to verify that this is what
the current owners of the property require since this is not an FOMS
officially sposored field trip.
Hope all is well with you and a happy and healthy new year as well.
Steven M Kuitems DMD
5. "Subscriber" List
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NJ Larry Berger lberger@interactive.net
NC Alan Borg aborg@brinet.com
NY Dick Bostwick rbostwick@worldnet.att.net
NJ Mark Boyer mboyer@pace2001.com
CA Kevin Brady kbrady@cslanet.cals
PA Bob Carnein ccarnein@eagle.lhup.edu
VA Peter Chin Peter.Chin@USPTO.GOV
NJ John Cianciulli rockman@warwick.net
MD Gary Grenier william.grenier@mercantile.net
MN Tim Hanson tim@ens.net
NY Tema Hecht thecht@worldnet.att.net
CA Andy_Honig andym@lightspeed.net
CA Mark_Isaacs isaacsmark@hotmail.com
John Jaszczak jaszczak@mtu.edu
NY Carl_Kanoff MCDKan@clarityconnect.com
NJ Steve Kuitems skuitems@eclipse.net
FL Roy_Lambert rlambert@ufl.edu
Jay Lininger matrix@redrose.net
PA Mike Logan mikelogan@sprintmail.com
MD Bill Mattison mattison@thunder.nws.noaa.gov
CA Dan McHugh dmchugh@eee.org
CA Doug Mitchell DMitchell@compuserve.com
CO Pete Modreski pmodresk@usgs.gov
WA Don Newsome uvsystems@aol.com
NJ Jeff_Osowski jvotmo@blast.net
AZ George Polman polmans@compuserve.com
NJ Nathan Schachtman nschacht@voicenet.com
NY Paul Shizume s1153fam@aol.com
NJ Dave Slaymaker dh10000@yahoo.com
CA Jane Grover-Smith ANGLESEA@webtv.net
CA Kent Smith kentnorwood@email.msn.com
NJ Chris Thorsten chris@atomic-pc.com
NJ Jim Tozour jtozour@home.com
NJ Earl Verbeek everbeek@nac.net
Herb Yeates herb@simplethinking.com Japan
CA Wayne_Young Wayney@us.ibm.com